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Episode 6: How High-Integrity Founders Avoid Dogma And Drift
“I am someone I would consider very values-driven… that's the way I do business. Now that I have so many people on my team and so many clients, it can feel like I just have this like tsunami of opinions from everyone all the time… are you porous enough and flexible enough and self-reflective enough to be able to continue to evolve yourself.”
That’s the tension that runs through this Season 1 Finale of Breaking The Bottleneck, where Co-Hosts Charlie Birch and Laurel Carpenter sit down with Makena Finger Zannini, Founder of The Boutique COO, a seven-figure operations agency.
In this conversation, Makena explains that in an industry that often overpromises and underdelivers, she operates on three non-negotiables: integrity, transparency, and mutual respect.
You’ll hear:
The three principles that anchor how she leads
About keeping to your standards even when it means losing money, time, and relationships
How to identify cult-adjacent behavior in entrepreneurial spaces
What distinguishes grounded leadership from dogmatic leadership
Why she invites and integrates feedback constantly, even when it’s uncomfortable
The role evidence-based mindset work plays in sustainable entrepreneurship
Why she installed a personal “board of directors” to call her out and tell her the truth
For founders committed to building values-driven companies, Makena’s story is a reminder that clarity, self-awareness, and a willingness to evolve are just as operationally important as systems, offers, and revenue.
episode 5: Taking The Leap From Founder-Led To Team Driven
In this conversation, Ashley unpacks what it really took to move from doing everything herself (sales, hiring, marketing, HR) to building a team-driven company that supports working parents at home and at work.
You’ll hear:
How a time and energy audit helped her get out of the weeds and into the C-suite
The moment she realized that delegation isn’t about speed but joy
How quality control and delegation can co-exist, hint, hint it’s all about systems and feedback loops
Why empathy is a nonnegotiable at Sundays
How Sundays protects team members from misaligned, potentially toxic clients
The lie she had to unlearn to really appreciate her successes
Episode 4: Going All In On Purpose At Scale
This episode of Breaking The Bottleneck is a gut check for every founder who’s ever wondered, "Can doing business with integrity really payoff?" Join us as Co-Hosts Charlie Birch and Laurel Carpenter sit down with Terri Maxwell, to discuss her commitment to purpose-driven business and conscious capitalism.
You’ll hear:
What it takes to earn, scale, and focus differently
Confirmation that betting on yourself and purpose does pay off
How to navigate value-based pricing
How to earn from your failures
The two mistakes founders make every day that keep them stuck
How to survive “Death Valley” and elevate your business to team-driven growth
The evidence you need to silence both inner and outer naysayers.
Episode 3: Unlearning Corporate Lies: A Journey Of Courageous Integrity
This episode of Breaking The Bottleneck, Co-Hosts Charlie Birch and Laurel Carpenter go behind the scenes with Zach Messler as he recounts his transition from “Good Corporate Soldier” to agency owner to strategic advisor.
It’s a story about clarity and the courage to do the right thing and deliver your best work, despite cultural pressure to cut corners and step-in-line.
You’ll hear:
The key to the universe
Zach's go-to formula for crystal clear product marketing
Why easy now = hard later
How to combat imposter syndrome in all its forms.
How AI has changed the marketing world and how to use it correctly
Why scaling isn't for everyone and what success can look like instead
2 foundational questions every founder can ask themselves to get unstuck
🤡 Spoiler alert: You’ll also see what happens when AI comes uninvited to the party in the form of digital confetti.
Episode 2: Scaling With Strength And Love
In this episode of Breaking The Bottleneck, Co-Hosts Charlie Birch and Laurel Carpenter sit down with guest Dr. Joanne Chu, Co-Founder of Strelo Group.
You’ll hear:
How to scale purpose and values
What a "Conscious Contract" is and why you need one
How to navigate honorable compensation and fair market price
The true value of a best-fit client
Why the most powerful brands have to master two voices
How asking "Why?" ensures you're solving for outcomes
How to start converting your brand from surface-level vibes to high-integrity operating system
If you’ve ever felt the tension between growth and values, this episode's for you!
Episode 1: Surprisingly Simple Way To Grow: Think Less. Say Yes. Rest More
In this inaugural episode of Breaking The Bottleneck, Co-Hosts Charlie Birch and Laurel Carpenter sit down with guest. Chris Dyer to discuss what it truly takes to move from founder-led to team-driven.
You’ll hear:
How he lost 40% of his clients in an instant and what it taught them about resilience
Why, when it comes to delegation, “integrity” matters more than control
The Ego strength required to let go without walking away
The hidden loneliness that comes with growth, and how to handle it
Types of rest every Founder needs and probably isn't getting
Practical ways to separate your identity from your company’s so the brand can thrive without you
If you’ve ever felt stuck between doing it all yourself and trusting others to do it right, this conversation will hit home.